C&C 27 Association Forum

A very well equipped and well cared-for boat.
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This site responds slowly at times, which makes its relative lack of feedback to button-clicking make it appear that it hasn't "heard" you when you click the Submit button. The solution is to be patient, not to click repeatedly; this just clogs the works with duplicate posts -- in this case, three of them. If you do click twice or more, intentionally or not, please check the thread and delete any duplicates yourself.
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Yes, you just started it. If it seems to be of interest, it may get a page in the main body - remember I said may, not will.

Bear in mind that this site is predominantly historical and technical - there are lots of places to discuss destinations, experiences and so on, so let's take the various Napoleonic War series, including Aubrey/Maturin, Hornblower, Ramage and Bolitho, as added and move on, sticking to the helpful or truly historical.

Nigel Calder's Boatowner's Mechanical and Electrical Manual: How to Maintain, Repair, and Improve Your Boat's Essential Systems is stuffed with far more than most of us need to know. It's the sort of book you keep on your shelf, reading as needed, rather than reading for itself.

Peter Kemp's The Oxford Companion to Ships and the Sea (which seems to have been updated finally by a new author) is a very useful reference when thinking and reading about things nautical. If you're reading one of the series mentioned above, and someone is described as climbing the futtock-shrouds, this will tell you what he is up to, as well as many useful bits of present-day information about nautical technology.

If you can find a copy, Steve Killing and Doug Hunter's [url=http://www.amazon.ca/gp/offer-listing/039304646X/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new&qid=1358703638&sr=1-9">Yacht Design Explained[/url] is, as I have said previously, a fantastic entrée to understanding why boats are shaped as they are. The stupidity of letting this book go out of print is shown by the stupendous prices asked on Amazon. Easy to understand but not simplistic, it really expanded my understanding of the art. Killing is an ex-C&C designer who has become one of the unseen hands behind the America's Cup's interest in wing sails (boats of his design have won the last two C Class regattas, which used to be known as the Little America's Cup until the lawyers stepped in), and Doug Hunter is the owner of C&C27 Diva.
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The blueprints and drawings made available by the Marine Museum are indeed copyright and cannot be distributed via this Forum (the address has been deleted). A further consideration, beyond the legalities of copyright, is that the Marine Museum, like every cultural entity in this country, is badly underfunded, and so understaffed, which is probably the reason they're not very responsive. However, they are the go-to people for the history of our sport and our chosen boats, so we should support them. If someone will pass me the relevant reference numbers, I will publish those on this site so people can simply e-mail and ask for them, rather than having to ask staff to dig around for them. We're not talking a lot of money to buy them, but it's important to them.

To that end, I will publish here a small copy of the drawings so people can see what's available. Someone send me the file - to be clear, I will publish a small jpeg, not the full 6 MB file.

Also, I will make available the file of a very handsome re-drawing of the original lines plans, made by Doug Hunter (who is an illustrator as well as an author) with George Cuthbertson's blessing. This shows both the Mark 1 hull (what we refer to as the Mk I and Mk II) and the Mark 2 hull (our Mk III and IV) and is definitely suitable for framing as an 11" x 17" print as well as being sufficiently detailed for model-making (I printed the copy on my wall and plus I have a small stack of balsa in my basement). Doug has kindly presented this to the Assoc as a fund-raising tool. I will let you know the terms when I have consulted others in the Assoc.

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Asking for help isn't what I had in mind (this refers to a post that was deleted at its author's request - though she could have done it herself, nag, nag). What I'm looking for is closing circles - you ask for help in fixing your rudder (or something else - the rudder is just an example), a group of people give suggestions, you use or don't use them as the case may be, then you let us know which suggestions worked for you and which didn't. At present, many of our question/answer threads lack that last step.

On the other hand, we have an excellent example of follow-up in the thread, Atomic 4 Operating Temp - "whippet" asks a question about his overheating A4; he gets half a dozen responses, some recounting what the poster did with his engine and what it achieved, others proposing alternatives, yet others amplifying or providing a different persepctive on a common theme. Then, "Cap'n Tom" comes in asking for a new level of detail, duly provided. Finally Capt'n Tom provides a detailed account of what he did (while the memory is fresh), what he found and what he achieved. Ultimately, what we have is a much more complete picture of how to address an overheating A4.

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