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Mystery, C&C27 MarkII, hull 52, is for sale. She is on the west coast in Sidney BC, Van Isle Marina.
Great condition very well maintained and ready to race and cruise.
New standing rigging (2010), new main (2009), new genoa (2010), 8HP Farryman diesel engine (2001), new gas tank (2011), holding tank, Martec folding prop (2009), new head (2009). Compliant to Pacific International Yachting Association Category II.
Ful inventory of sails for racing and cruising, including spinnaker.
Depth sounder, VHF, GPS, Speedometer (2010), Avon inflatable dinghy.
Asking $16600
Stéphane
Pictures:
http://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/CC-27-Mark-II-1972_15695139
Hi,
In terms of head sails, I currently of a 153% and a 135% that are good. I also have an old 120% that can be reefed down to a 89% jib.
I am looking a newer 100% and a storm jib, both with hanks.
To comply with PIYA rules the storm jib area must not exceed 5% of I^2. That is less than 61sqft.
Would anyone recommend dimensions for a 100% jib for a C&C27-2 (luff, leech and foot)?
Stéphane, Sidney BC
Hi,
My old metal fuel tank is ready to be replaced. I have a plastic one that I need to install on the starboard wooden stand in the starboard locker tucked against the sink. I suppose a classic configuration for a C&C27 mark II.
The plastic tank comes wih 4 metal brackets for fixing the tank to the boat but there is no room behind.
Any idea how to fix the tank?
Thanks,
Stéphane, Sidney BC
Hi all,
I now have the Wichard backstay adjuster. All SS except for the wheel. Simple and doing the job: excellent. Used it for our long race last weekend.
Stéphane
Hi,
I have a C&C27 Mark II that I race in PHRF and my spinnaker is getting very old. What are the dimensions of your spinnaker? Is it in good shape?
Stéphane, Sidney BC
Hi Tal,
I went for the Wichard adjuster ($471 from the Mauripro website).
http://www.mauriprosailing.com/Wichard-Backstay-Adjusters/WIC5526.html
You are right: splitting the backstay is scary and I will stay with the original design: a single chain plate.
Stéphane
Hi Rob,
Thanks for the link. So, you attach your SS backtays on either sides on the rings on each corners. The fiddle block is on one side.
The C&C27-2 came with a chainplate for the backstay that looks very sturdy. I guess using both corner rings spread the loads by half on each fixture.
Stéphane
Hi,
My backstay adjuster, a brass system that unfold for screwing in or out, broke today after a windy race. The brass thread is gone.
I am wondering if replacing the brass part is a long term solution as the problem may hapened again (SS into brass will wear off).
I see that more recent boats (and Mark 3 and 4 C&C27) have the backstay split and a block system for adjusting tension. My backstay fits on a single very sturdy plate that bolds on a bulkhead at the back (Mark 2 C&C 27).
Would anyone recommend any good backstay adjustement system that I can use? I am not sure if I can use the corners (attached to the rail).
Stéphane, Mystery, C&C27-2, Sidney BC
David,
I agree with you. I changed to a simple folding prop for racing and this despite all the warnings I got about poor handling.
I do exactly like you do when I get ouf my slip. One thing for sure is that with a folding prop one has to anticipate a bit more: can't go too fast and "break" by reversing and expect a quick stop. Gentle touch!
Stéphane
Mystery, C&C27-2, Sidney, BC
Hi,
I am putting my C&C27 to Category II for a race in March. One of the requirements in Limit of Positive Stability not less than 110 deg. Does anyone know the value for a C&C27 Mark II?
http://www.ussailing.net/piya/2011%20PIYA%20Certificate.pdf
Stéphane, Sidney BC
Hi,
I am looking for a newer spinnaker for my C&C 27 Mark II. Any non-racer that wish to sell this unwanted sail?
Stéphane, Mystery, Sidney BC
I understand. I will try the harken system as it leads the tweaker back to the cockpit.
The block with cam is quite a bit more expensive than a single block with a separate cam.
Thanks for all these advices. I will get back to the forum once I have tried the new tweekers.
Stéphane
Mystery, Sidney BC, C&C 27 Mk II
With the continuous line, if you pull on the sheet side it will pull the guy side too. We want control of each side independantly.
Stéphane
Hi Tal,
Here is a set up from Harken that I like. A light 2:1 double traveller block and then two blocks on the rail so that the control line can be brought aft to a cleat.
http://www.harken.com/uk/news/OptimiseCruiser-Racer-4.php
Stéphane
Dear Tal,
With the blocks always in the sheets/guys, don't you have any issue for when you douse the spinnaker?
Stéphane
Dear David,
I do not understand your description with the continuous line.
Each side has a block in the sheet/guy and a block with clamcleat snatched on the rail. Now, where does the contiuous line runs?
Stéphane
Hi Tal,
You say you used bullet blocks on the sheet and guy. I thought that the idea was to use large snatch blocks (the one that can split open so that you can put them anytime) so that in light wind they are not used. In high wind, they can be snatched on for use.
Then again, I just saw at the race last week, a boat with very small blocks on the spinnaker guy and sheet. Wind was very very light. I don't see the use of barber hauler in light winds.
Stéphane
Yes. They are useful for running the spinnaker in strong winds. By bringing the sheet closer to the boat, the spinnaker is more stable. Ref "Illustrated Sail and Rig Tuning" by Ivar Dedekam.
Stéphane
Hi,
I need to rig barber haulers for the spinnaker on my C&C27 mk2.
Any recommendation? Size of block, snatch block on sheet or fixed one, position of the block on the rail...
Thanks,
Stéphane
Yes, I did in details. I understand that mast rake should be adjusted for correct weather helm and is a bit of trial and error. However, if experienced C&C27 racers in the fleet had a number for the rake, that would be great. I race PHRF on the west coast with no C&C 27 in sight (unfortunately)!
Stéphane
Hello,
I am racing my C&C27 Mark II and need to tune the rigging for better pointing.
When I purchased the boat, there was hardly any rake and recently I lengthened the forestay to get 8 cm of rake. Is that enough? What would be a good starting point for a rake on a MarkII?
Stéphane, Sidney, BC
Hi,
This message is for racers on C&C 27 Mark II. I race PHRF in BC and my handicapper told me that my spinnaker dimensions were corresponding to a code 5 but because of the pole length (12.5 ft) I get a code 6 handicap for the spinnaker.
What is typically done with C&C?
1) race with the code 5 spinnaker but get a code 6 in the handicap
2) get a bigger code 6 spinnaker
3) reduce the pole length to have a code 5 handicap
Thanks,
Stéphane
"Mystery" in Sidney BC.
PS: here are the dimensions the spinnaker which looks original:
SLU=SLE=35 ft
SGM=21.58 ft
SGF=22.42 ft
Hi Marcus,
Yes, I have tracks as Mystery was raced from day one. It has two tracks going inboard so that I can open or close the jib or move forward or aft the clew. I have a bock that can be moved from one position to another. I have a picture of it but do not know how to post it.
Stéphane
Thanks Marcus for the details. I agree with the sail plan 153%, 130%, 100% and storm. I will likely go for Dacron… given the price of laminated sails.
As for the hallyards, I have two for the spinnaker but only one for the jib. I don't know about a second groove for the jib but that may be a difference between a Mark II and Mark III C&C 27.
I now have to get quotes and find the money, but this sail plan makes lots of sense.
There are no other C&C 27 to race with in my area and I envy the C&C27 fleet in the east! In our division Mystery is starting to get competitive but I want to exploit the full potential of this boat in PHRF. The recent good race results are due to (in addition to a more experienced crew and skipper!) mainly a new code 5 full batten main, a Martec folding prop and also the fact that we have upgraded from white sail to the spinnaker division. My pointing and upwind speed are not that great and I hope that a new 153% genoa will improve things (current one is a 1980 Northsail… not all that new).
Stéphane, Mystery Mrk II, Hull #59, Victoria BC
Thanks Marcus for your comments. Sounds like a good option. I could ask my sailmaker to make a cruising roller genoa out of my current hank on genoa and order two nice sails for racing (a large and medium).
What size do you have for racing? When you bypass the roller you do not take it off, do you?
Stéphane