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This is what I'm going to do except I'm going in front of the mast base also with a 3x1 1/2" for the vang and reefing system. So three down each side and three in the front.
C&C 27 Mark III 1978
"Shifts and Giggles"
Unbelievably the previous owners have never installed a newer fuel filter and mine still retains the same. I developed a fuel leak this weekend that I thankfilly caught early and shut off the fuel from the tank, effectively draining the system. I see a lot of Racor filter/seperators out there and wonder everones opinion. Also, did you guys retain the original copper tubing or run an entirely new fuel line from the tank to the pump. I believe this is what Im going to do.
C&C 27 Mark III 1978
"Shifts and Giggles"
Hey David,
Do you by chance have any pictures of your mast base as you describe?
C&C 27 Mark III 1976
"Shifts and Giggles"
What I want is to place 4foot tracks up under the window inside the shrouds for the #3 and 6 footers outside the shrouds for the #1 and #2. Reefing a Genny just doesn't get shape for crap on a furler. I want to be able to change sails and sheet to the optimum shape.
C&C 27 Mark III 1976
"Shifts and Giggles"
Great, Thanks David.
C&C 27 Mark III 1976
"Shifts and Giggles"
I have yet to be able to find those plugs for the headliner. Have you got a web site I can check out?
C&C 27 Mark III 1976
"Shifts and Giggles"
Gotcha,
Yes the organizers have a horizontal sheer load on them in lieu of a tensioned load, which was my thinking also. You see, my girl is having a cow at the thought of trashing the headliner and I'm trying to alleviate that notion as much as possible. I lioke the Spinlock 4 sheeve organizers and i think I can make those work without a mounting plate as the curve of the deck is not to great so as to not bind the sheeves.
Thank
C&C 27 Mark III 1976
"Shifts and Giggles"
I'm with you on the clutches but what about the organisers that route the lines from the turning blocks at the mast to the clutches?
C&C 27 Mark III 1976
"Shifts and Giggles"
When you guys installed the Genoa tracks to your boats, did you use the aluminum backing plate or did the epoxy plugs and fender washers suffice? Also, did you need to build up any type of mounting platform to mount the deck organisers/ I see that Spinlock has a type of organizer that can conform to a curved deck.
C&C 27 Mark III 1976
"Shifts and Giggles"
I tried to fix this but it wouldn't let me, sorry guys!!!!!
C&C 27 Mark III 1976
"Shifts and Giggles"
Don’t sweat it as far as gruff goes, I’m a charter member of Sailing Anarchy so there isn’t anything I haven’t heard or said before. Now I may very well tell you to F.O. if it is appropriate, however know that it is meant in the friendliest way.
I find this site to be about as informative as any I could possibly need as far as retrofitting my boat. To let you guys understand what I’m doing, this is my first monohull after many years of racing NACRA Catamarans as well as crewing as tactician and co helm on a Tartan T10. I’m a Mechanical Engineer designing building systems by trade and actually can’t help myself as far as tinkering goes; my girlfriend calls me “Inspector Gadget”. So I’m sure I’ll have many questions as I progress through my exploits and hopefully some original ideas. I have down loaded virtually every post with a question I had previously and have started a 3 ring binder to keep on the boat for reference. I am using this boat as a test bed to start and learn as much as possible prior to moving up to a 40 footer and retiring. I am 45 years old now and plan to be on the water drinking Dark and Stormys in 5 years. So in the next couple of years this boat will be worth far more than I could ever get out of it because I plan on revising and or replacing virtually every piece of equipment and systems on the boat as well as adding things that wouldn’t normally be found on a boat of this size. Now I know a shit load of people are going to chime in and say “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”. Well this is fun for me and the Admiral told me if I keep it under 10 grand then I can do what I want. That leaves a lot of latitude as far as I’m concerned and I plan to have a little fun in the process.
I like the idea of the foot pump as far as they draining of the cooler goes, however I’m thinking that a couple of check valves in the sink discharge to the through hull is the way to go. Thought’s?
C&C 27 Mark III 1976
"Shifts and Giggles"
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Are you talking about that little red pump under the shelf? Is THAT what that damn things for? I leaks like a sieve at the moment and I was going to shit can it but didn't want to throw out something I may regret later.
C&C 27 Mark III 1976
"Shifts and Giggles"
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;">I have a bunch questions as a new owner and instead of filling up the server for this site for info already covered many times, can I by chance get your e-mail address? If you don’t want it out there I completely understand.
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Thanks guys,
I have seen the error of my ways after surfing this site AFTER I posted so be gentle. I'll check the hose since the pump is there and is operating, and I would be willing to bet the hose is disconnected. I like the idea of the three way valve to either use the fresh water or drain the tank.
I actually printed a tree ring binder full of info from this site last night and read the majority of it. I liked the idea of lighting the winch covers below for the galley and might talk the Admiral into somewhat of the same setup for the strip of opaque plastic required for the track installation.
I have a question though, has anyone thought abought a curved track running just inside the deck bolts where the headliner alows access for inspecting the bolts? I have seen this method many times on different boats and it seems sufficient for our needs with no cutting of the head liner. The only problem I see is not being able to sheet the Genoa at a perfect angle.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;">I have a couple of questions if you guys don’t mind.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;">I have for the life of me no idea how this damn thing drains. I’ve looked everywhere possible for a through hull fitting that has a sea cock on it to drain the ice box to no avail. So we are out sailing and we heal the boat over to about 25 degrees and I hear the bilge pump going. So we go down below for lunch and the floors wet and the coolers empty. So I’m figuring that there is a deep seal trap that empties when the boat is healed to port or possibly starboard also and drains across the floor to the keel sump or when there is enough dynamic pressure on the trap to allow water to pass by. Please tell me this isn’t the way it was designed. It seems to me that running it to a cockpit drain would be way more efficient and wouldn’t get the cabin floor all wet. Am I totally missing something? If I am in fact correct, is there a better way to accomplish this?
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;">I was looking into removing the Genoa block from the toe rail and installing a set of 6’-0” tracks outside of the shrouds with blocks to allow adjustment while racing. I also planed on installing a set of 4’-0” tracks inside the shrouds for higher winds when I fly the #3 while racing. Is there a way to accomplish this without a complete and total abortion of the existing head liner? My lady says under no circumstances are we going to start cutting up the head liner since we already crew on another boat and this is her cruiser and my cruiser / racer. I think I might be able to accomplish the Genoa tracks outside of the shrouds by installing them so that the bolts are accessible from above that lip that allows access to the deck bolts. Am I screwed as far as the inner tracks go?
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;">I want to run everything back to the cockpit for ease of sail trim and handling. What the plan is, to move the winch drums off the mast down where they should be in the first place, mounted to the original cabin roof pads. Then add a couple of Lewmar D2 double clutches in front of each winch drum for the Main, Genoa/jib and spinnaker halyards. That allows us to raise sails from the cockpit as well as use the winch drums for flying the spinnaker in higher winds. So with the headliner issue and the old lady again, will self tapping screws hold in the Balsa core or with there be additional modifications required such as epoxy plugs or as a last resort glassing in some stainless steel and tapping it for the clutch bolts.
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;">I’m also planning to run everything for sail trim back to the cabin top hatch cover enclosure. I was planning on using Ronstan Offshore cam cleats with the gray fairleads for the Cunningham, Vang, outhaul and reefing system I have devised. I was going to install a 10 Ga. Stainless backing plate for the cleats to reinforce the enclosure for the loads that it will see. Since the loads are horizontal coming from turning blocks at the bottom of the mast, I don’t see them as being anything out of the ordinary. Is this a bad idea or has it been done before?
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;">In conclusion, are there any web sites or owner blogs that show how they have upgraded the running rigging on a 27 without taking a sawzall (SP) to the head liner?
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;">Thanks for any and all help and suggestions in advance.
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I'm looking to buy a new (to me) boat and was wondering what to look for before purchasing. I already love the boat and i believe it will be a perfect pocket cruiser for the Chessy.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Thanks,
Martin Jubenville
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