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#1 2007-05-28 12:27:07

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27 mark v 1985

A survey of a 27 mark v that i am considering reports softness in side decks and recommends recaulking chain plates. It also reports high moisture in the bulkhead-portside. How worrisome is this? There seem to be no visible cracks or splits or crazing in the deck and cabintop gelcoat.
Interestingly, this boat has outboard power and seems never to have had an inboard?
        
A survey of a 27 mark v that i am considering reports the following about the bulkhead "..no evidence of delamination, and minor evidence of separation of secondary tabbings in bilges from grounding"
Does this "grounding" refer to electrical? or to the vessel having run aground?

this vessel has #19 one-speed Barients (non-self-tailing). Have any mark v owners installed upgraded winches?


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#2 2007-05-28 23:38:31

Steve Reid
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Re: 27 mark v 1985

Hi:
The reference in your survey to grounding, is most likely to the boat having been run aground at some point. As to the "high moisture" in the bulkhead port side, you don't say for sure but one could presume that it is the main bulkhead, that separates the head area from the main cabin. If this is the case, it is something that needs to be corrected immediately before any rot gets a chance to take hold. You would be well advised to get a competent marine repair facility to have a look at it and get an estimate to have it repaired professionally. I looked at a Mark V several years ago and that boat had some serious rot in the bottom of the main bulkhead. I found it would be an expensive proposition to have to replace the bulkhead. If you haven't yet purchased the boat or hopefully you made an offer subject to survey then you should adjust your offer price to compensate for the repairs.
You should also ask the surveyor for a full explanation of any questions you have about the survey, you paid him to do it, you have a right to fully understand what he has found.
My Mark V has upgraded self tailing winches on it, if you are upgrading you can go up to Harken 32's or Lewmar 30's, you will have to drill and fill the old mounting holes but that's a fairly simple process (look in the "Black Arts" section of this web site.

Steve Reid
Still Knot Working Mk V #75
   

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#3 2007-05-28 23:59:33

jpmarshall
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Re: 27 mark v 1985

I was interested in hearing the replies to your comment on the boat having just an outboard as this has become an issue at our club as it relates to PHRF's.  We have some boats in the 27-28 foot range that run only outboards even though typical models have inboards which adds that nice 500-600 pounds in the stern (engine, fuel, batteries) that may be helpful in big wind but we typically race in light wind and these big plastic tubs with tiny outboards hanging off the back end up kicking our butts more often than not.  There is a feeling among some at the club that there should be some adjustment to the PHRF rating for these rascals.
The Marshall's
Hotel California
1979 Mk III
Dryden,  Ontario


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1979 Mk III
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#4 2007-05-29 00:48:53

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Re: 27 mark v 1985

I read your comment.  Below is a link to the C&C home page PHRF ratings.  Note that they do give different ratings for the same model of boat with inboard or outboard engines.   Barry    Oasis 1987 Mk  V
<A href="http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/technical/newphrf.htm">http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/technical/newphrf.htm</A>

#5 2007-05-29 02:23:24

Aragorn
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Re: 27 mark v 1985

Hi JP.
   In our club, we have one boat with the reverse situation to that you describe. This boat, a Mirage 25, would apparently, normally have an outboard on it and because it has an inboard engine, it has been given a very favourable rating over the O.B. version of the same boat. When someone queried the logic for that adjustmernt they were told it was for "extra weight" of the inboard.
   Anyway, after more than a few years of racing, I've come to realize (along with a bunch of other guys in my club) that no handicapping system is adequate to equate different boats over different conditions. We've seen our Shark fleet grow from 4 to 11 boats over the past 5 years as more and more of our members move to a one design, affordable boat ( a Shark) for level racing.  It must be nice to be able to count one boat ahead of you and know that you're in second place!!
Clare Jordan, Brockville (Ontario) Yacht Club


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