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So Towser's elegant description of a "cute little drain" is really no more than a C&C's "scupper"? It must be a very dull day, for even the volcanoes are at rest.
Alan of SMOKE 1984 Mk V 002
If Doug's towel were first wrapped around a warm beer, then clipped to the lifeline, I suspect you'd quickly have a cool beer. Tony in California, hang on to your puddles......
Alan of SMOKE 1984 Mk V 002
Joshua, that 'red' light is a safety light to avoid night blindness when you (navigate) in the cabin and then emerge into a dark night. I have one on SMOKE, neighbors call it my red light district.....
At a sailing committee meeting last night I asked the many experienced boat owners if using LED fixtures in the navigation lights was a good idea. All of them said yes, and most of them had done the changeover already. In our area the masts are (mostly) out and on racks, so it's a good time to do it.
I will give you the make and model of the LED units that I used below decks next time I creep into my shrink-wrapped boat....
Alan of SMOKE 1984 Mk V 002
I have replaced all below-deck incandescent light bulbs with LED units, thus saving the load on the battery, but this thread makes me wonder if it would be wise and safe to do the same for all the above deck lights? Has anyone done that please, and is it OK?
Alan of SMOKE 1984 Mk V 002
Tony, I have a similar situation but it is restricted to the last 3 feet or so on each side aft. The toe rail already has about 70 slots each side, the bottoms of which are a little above the deck. In my case the very shallow puddles gather in the gutter (that is probably a very un-nautical term) and can no longer drain over the transom due to the boat's sheer being horizontal at that point, and there are some pushpit mounting fittings in that area to add to the dam effect.
My solution is a sponge!!!
Happy New Year in your sunny part of the world.
Alan of SMOKE 1984 Mk V 002
I think I should have used "scupper" instead of "gutter",????
Eureka and thank you. Perhaps we will hear from some 'missing' 27's in Europe?
The town of Eastbourne, in SE England, after years of tipped-over single-keel boats, built a large, enclosed boat harbour with a water level which is maintained between high and low tides. The lock has a deep and buoyed approach from The Channel, so if you enter it at low tide it LIFTS you to harbour level, but if you enter at high tide it LOWERS you to harbour level. Sounds like something the Romans developed.
It totally confounds the bilge keel gang.....and most first time users.
Alan of SMOKE 1984 Mk V 002
In fear, nay even dread, of disturbing tropical gods who run volcanoes, and on occasion can be capricious, I dare to ask where I can find your new and mystery-filled page, for it has eluded me so far, no matter how hard I search.
With thanks.
Alan of SMOKE 1984 Mk V 002
SMOKE's lifelines terminate with turnbuckles on the (stern) pulpit, so I have that problem of a quick release mechanism as described by Admin, perhaps in bad weather. I like the cord solution, but it needs a knife to be instantly available..........I had thought of moving the turnbuckles forward, then having snap shackles (4) at the termination points aft. It would require a good, braided lanyard on the release pins, but would be there for instant use. Any comments/thoughts please?
Alan of SMOKE 1984 Mk V 002
These fit under the tree.....perfectly
Alan of SMOKE 1984 Mk V 002
Martin, there is a long thread about rope clutches some three years back. If you 'search' under the subject 'rope clutches' you'll find it. My four double Spinlock XAS06/12 units work well, no slippage and almost no chafe after three years of use and abuse .
Alan of SMOKE 1984 Mk V 002
The C&C 27 Rules make us use wire rope lifelines, but both ISAF and IRC now allow the use of Dyneema lines. They would have a shorter lifespan, but be easier to install and replace, much lighter, and far more friendly on the hands and running rigging which chafes against them.
Alan of SMOKE 1984 Mk V 002
After a bit of Googling I found Plastico Industries in Cambridge which might be a starting point. www.plastico.ca/
Alan of SMOKE 1984 Mk V 002
Welcome Martin.
You have all winter to hunt for 2-speed self-tailing winches, so a good place to start is eBay. I found suitable units there, but they don't stay around long.You will need to check the Site daily.
SMOKE has 4 Barient 10's on the coach roof. In conjunction with 8 good clutches they seem to do their job quite well. Might the larger 18's be an obstacle in that area? You should also keep in mind that the structure was probably not designed to take the much increased loads that you can apply with the larger winches. Other owners may have done this modification, so I suggest that you wait for further ideas that come your way.
Alan of SMOKE 1984 Mk V 002
Mike, after some searching we can find no sign of Wind Horse in this part of the world.....However, we will certainly recall your habit of going for a leisurely sail in her each New Year's Day, remembering to tell us how much you enjoyed it. You must have wondered why we in the frozen North could possibly find justification for suffering six month winters. There is none!
If you finally un-motorcycle yourself and find your way to the Lake Ontario region please be sure to hunt us down and come for a sail. We miss you.
Alan of SMOKE 1984 Mk V 002
Brent, those numbers are perplexing. We have Wild Rover at 5550 lbs, and SKW at 6111 lbs, We know that Steve probably removed more from his boat than you did from yours, as he was obtaining an official weight for rating purposes, and thus had to follow the IRC directives. His cushions were on board, as required, but not much else. If the scales are correct it means that SKW is 10% heavier than Wild Rover, which an amazing variance between two supposedly identical boats.
Any comments from the Mk I to IV owners please? Anyone else had their boat weighed recently?
Alan of SMOKE 1984 Mk V 002
Stephen, the Forum is a treasure trove of useful information, so all you need to do is replace 'refrigeration' in the subject box for the 'batteries' you tried earlier to-day and you will have a full evening's fun finding out how 27ers keep their beer cold without ice cubes....
Alan of SMOKE 1984 Mk V 002
Stephen
If you log in and go to 'search', then enter 'batteries' in the subject box, you will enjoy 56 entertaining thoughts and experiences about batteries. If your question isn't answered there, give up!
Alan of SMOKE 1984 Mk V 002
It probably depends on what the covers are made of, but I did it last year and they came up bright and clean, without shrinking.
I suggest you mark all covers and foam 'innards' ( good name) when you pull them apart as I had a bit of a battle matching them up last time!! My innards were wrapped in thin plastic sheeting to keep them dry even if the covers were soaked by wet gear, spilled drinks, water through the companionway in heavy weather etc etc. You will be amazed what a pile of material is involved, several home-sized washing machine loads unless you go to a laundromat with commercial sized units.
Alan of SMOKE 1984 Mk V 002
Since emptying the fuel tank is probably a bad idea, what capacity did you use for SKW's fuel tank when full? The brochure says 11 U.S. gallons, which is 41.6 litres., but I am unable to find a more 'official' number. Perhaps there are variations from boat to boat? I will hunt in my paperwork, which has many of the original specs for such things.
Several boats at BHYC have IRC certificates and sometimes race under that rating system, Bronte Rocks for instance. Out of curiosity, why are you going that way please? It is something that may be of real interest to other 27-ers.
Thanks
Alan of SMOKE 1984 Mk V 002
Thanks Steve, that is just what I wanted. I have read the USSailing guide for what may, and what may not, be on board when weighing. Did you have your fuel tank full and get an allowance?
Where was the single point crane with a weight module that you and Jim used please?
Have you guessed what SKW weighs when racing? How much 'stuff' is over and above your 6111 lbs? I know.....too much!
Alan of SMOKE 1984 Mk V 002
I use NAVIONICS on my iPad, giving much better definition with the larger screen. It is also really accurate.
Being on Lake Ontario I only look at it occasionally, so the battery lasts longer than the voyage! Georgian Bay sounds more demanding of skipper and battery, so that charger might be essential.
Alan of SMOKE 1984 Mk V 002
Four years ago there was a thread about the weight of our boats. The initial request was to decide what size of truck (pick-up) was needed to safely tow a 27.
My PHRF certificate says a Mk V weighs 5800 lbs. C&C's brochure says less. The Constitution and Rules says 5000.
Knowing that we load them up with mountains of assorted 'stuff', resulting in a large variance from boat to boat, has anyone actually weighed their 27? Even better, has anyone weighed their boat when really empty?
Is there a lifting device in the GTA which has a weighing module, allowing someone to get the real gross weight of their boat, "as sailed"
In summary we have these interesting numbers for a MkV .
C&C Class Association Constitution and Rules say a MkV displacement is 5000 lbs
C&C original brochure says 4720 lbs
The Class Web site, under 'Sea Change', says 4420 lbs
My PHRF certificate says 5800 lbs.
Confusing isn't it ?!?!
Tal, that extraordinary and incestuous situation makes me happy to be a customer of one of the local independents in the GTA. I can actually watch my sails being made.
Richard, who sought advise that opened this thread, must be confused and/or amazed!!!!!
Alan of SMOKE 1984 Mk V 002
Tal, I really like your succinct breakdown of sailmakers and sail sellers, but where does Quantum fit in to that picture please? A few years ago I was directed to their Toronto location...and it turned out to be Evolution' s place!!!!
Alan of SMOKE 1984 Mk V 002
Marcus, looking at Lee Sails Web site it seems that you must complete Lee's printed form, entering the numbers you take yourself, and those details are then sent to Hong Kong, which is the location of their (only?) loft. I feel far happier having a SAILMAKER come to the boat, take all measurements and details of such things as genoa tracks, backstays and roller furling design, and talk to you about how you will be using the sails. The sailmaker then makes the sails in a loft which is not the other side of the world. If something is not quite right it can and will be corrected locally, and again checked for perfect fit and design. He may even come out with you for a test sail, just to be really sure that all is well.
I buy all sorts of stuff from James at Dockside Chandlery, but when it comes to sails I believe it is probably better to go direct to a sailmaker. But it might cost a bit more!!!!!
Alan of SMOKE 1984 Mk V 002