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#1 2004-06-28 04:16:07

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outhaul recommendation

On my Mark 3 (1978 C&C 27) I have had an internal outhaul, with the line coming out of a small hole drilled about 1 foot back from the gooseneck, running through a block tied off the goosneck, and then lead aft through a block mounted at the foot of the mast. 
The outhaul has some internal block system inside the mast.  It works fine when it needs to be pulled, but when I release it, the system does not release smoothly.  In fact, you have to push the mainsail along the track to try and release it.
I have been playing around with it to improve it, and now I have managed to pull the line inside the boom, so I need to either go fishing inside my boom or pull it out, shake out whatever I can, and install a new outhaul!
Any idea if the system I have is a 'standard' outhaul?  When I pull to release the outhaul, it seems like I feel some sort of spring inside the boom. 
What does anyone recommend for changing the system?  I have reviewed the Harken system, that provides a 4:1 purchase by having the outhaul system installed on the side of the boom, with a cascade  of two 2:1 tackles (block on a line fed through a cheek block to the outhaul, pulled by another line and cleated).  Has anyone tried this? Any recommendation on ease of use by the crew to trim the outhaul under sail. 
It seems to me that the crew would be able to reach up to the middle of the boom to make an outhaul adjustment.  It would not be necessary to run the outhaul back to the cockpit. 
It would be great to have a section on this web site that displays the most evolved layout for all the lines (e.g. spinnaker, cunningham, etc.) and benefit from the experience of those that have upgraded their line systems.

#2 2004-06-28 05:32:26

davidww1
Member

Re: outhaul recommendation

I have a square boom with a built-in sheave for the outhaul (I mention this because there are variations). I never figured out how the previous owner had rigged his outhaul, so I reconfigured it so a wire outhaul leads via this sheave to a 4:1 cascade inside the boom that in turn leads to a point just aft the gooseneck, where the line descends to the deck and aft. Shock cord keeps the whole mess in tension when the outhaul is released, to minimize rattling; it's not powerful enough to ease the outhaul by itself in winds above 15 kt., but will do so in lighter air. The turning block at the gooseneck could easily be a block with cleat, such as Harken's exit Cam-matic, if you want to give the crew something to justify their existence.

You will note that we have a section on deck tracks in Black Arts as there seems to be some consensus on that. As to the rest, one sailor's "evolved layout" is another's kludge. There may even be philosophical differences, such as the unbridgable divide between those who like their sail controls infinitely adjustable and fiendishly complicated, and those for whom the mantra is "choose a or b, now get your head out of the boat".

That said, if people want to submit photos of the way they have organized their decks, there are instructions for posting photos in an earlier item, Using photos in your posts. If these make a real contribution, I will cheerfully swipe them and organize them into a page or pages.

David Weatherston
Towser, Toronto
C&C 27 Mk IV


David Weatherston
Towser, Toronto
C&C 27 Mk IV

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#3 2004-06-30 01:55:41

Aragorn
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Re: outhaul recommendation

My 1978 Mk 111 has a boom with a rectangular section and apparently the same internal 4:1 purchase tackle as you describe. Mine isn't led aft -- it simply cleats on the side of the boom just ahead of the exit hole. Some years ago I remember removing the tackle and renewing the line -- I think I just took off the forward end of the boom to access it. The problem you describe of trying to ease the outhaul under sail was much alleviated when I went to a "loose footed" mainsail when I replaced it a few years back and I recommend that as a solution ; if/when you ever change your mainsail.
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