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#1 Re: General discussion » mast step repair » 2022-01-13 15:23:15

The boats all had a marine ply base in there, should try to replace like-for-like. It's lasted 40 years, so you won't have to worry about it again smile

#2 Re: General discussion » head floor not solid » 2022-01-13 15:10:16

Sorry to say BrianB but this issue is likely also linked to your deck soft spot at the mast step.

The liner of the hull has a balsa core in it where the floor sections are. I think it is a 3/8" balsa in this area. It's a common area for rot and working in the C&C 27. By itself not an issue, just a bit springy, but it's likely combined with some leaky chainplates, mast step, or bulkhead/compression post issues.

I'd take a close look around the compression post & base of the bulkhead for other issues.

There are some plywood sections laminated to the hull in the setee which give some structure to the floor as well and they are exposed to bilge water if it has been at capacity.

#3 Re: General discussion » Site to shut down very soon » 2021-01-25 05:09:02

Has the domain been purchased by someone else or just not renewed by the current admin?

I might have some capacity to keep this rolling if there is any interest.

If not - Thanks for everything that you've done. This has been a tremendous resource and I have certainly found huge value from this community.

Thanks!

#4 Re: General discussion » Compression Post Help » 2020-04-20 00:19:44

Understood Marcus,

Just trying to get as close to standard as I can. There's at least 3/8" of goop slopped on top of the post so I'm not too critical of the overall length, Just want to make sure I'm in the right ballpark.

Secondly, The balsa in my cabin sole is shot so I can't take that as too accurate of a baseline either. I'm considering making a solid section or fitting a hole and going straight through the cored floor to the Knee in the bilge with the new one. 

Thanks for your help and thoughts,
John

#5 Re: General discussion » Rot under mast support? » 2020-04-20 00:09:38

Hi Tom,

It's got a section of plywood laminated in there, but suspect if the balsa is rotten right up to it the plywood is likely shot too. The aluminum base (mast shoe) is just screwed right through the plywood into the teak beam in the cabin on the aft section and the front section uses self-taping screws into the plywood.

It's not exactly sealed up tight.

I've done a bunch of core but this area all seemed well sound. Do you have fittings located on deck near the mast base? How come this core is damaged?

#6 General discussion » Compression Post Help » 2020-03-23 08:40:48

ibanezplayer
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I'm in the middle of replacing my compression post on my '29 MKIII. I've temporarily braced it with a jackscrew while I replace the wooden post. The problem is the compression post has rotted away to the point that I can't get a great measurement.

Could someone check the height from the sole to the wooden cross beam ( shown here: https://i.imgur.com/nSt2H5h.jpg) and comment on whether you have a wooden sole or just the regular fiberglass?

Thanks!

#7 Re: General discussion » MkV Bulkhead Assembly » 2015-11-20 04:36:25

I hope that I am not too late with this – My experience is from a MK III so it also may not be entirely relevant to you, but hopefully someone finds it useful.

The floor liner goes underneath the bulkhead, and is continuous from the main cabin to the head. However, it is discontinuous, as the bulkhead sits in a groove in the liner up until the waterline. At this point, the liner disappears behind the head cabinetry and the saloon cabinetry / shelf structure. Here the tabbing begins up to the ceiling liner. In the main cabin there is a secondary liner added above the cabin seating, which is stuck on with some soft “goop” and can be carefully peeled off. It is gelcoat and one layer of glass so it is extremely thin, fragile, and bendy.

It is deceiving when you look in the portside cabin seats, as it appears that you can see the bulkhead tabbing. This is actually where the liner is tabbed in and there is also a thin sheet of plywood in the layup. I had several screws from this panel going through the main bulkhead into a trim piece on the head-side, I’m not certain whether this was done by the factory.

On the underside of the deck, the bulkhead is set in a groove in the ceiling liner with a notch cut for the chain plates. It was assembled with some structural goop as well. The most frustrating part of replacing this bulkhead for myself was removing the top of the old bulkhead. Three pieces of wood act to stabilize the very top of the bulkhead and frame the door for the head. The wood was glued on and some blind screws were used during assembly, so it required some creative use of an oscillating tool.

The other notable thing from this project is that you cannot fit a full-size bulkhead through the companionway. I contemplated replacing part of my bulkhead, but it turns out the large cabin windows are just long enough to maneuver a full-size, pre-cut bulkhead through them. Not sure if that will help you with the MkV.

I hope that this helps.

#8 Re: General discussion » Need main sail help » 2014-06-06 04:36:19

Hi Jack,

I have two or three mainsails of various age in storage at a friends house which may work for you. You say the mainsail you have is too small for the boat, how did you determine this? Have you measured the luff of your sail? Do you still have the original MK 2 mast (35' overall, 29' I length)?

you can email me at;

ibanezplayer at gmail dot com is my email

#9 Re: General discussion » First Haulout Plan » 2014-06-06 04:26:57

"The flush mount through hulls are those large diameter C&C type that don't have a currently available match (far as I can find)."

Van_Isle

I made a new set of flush mount through hulls for OGOPOGO when I refitted them a few seasons ago. Just took new bronze flush mounts of the appropriate size and threw them in the lathe and turned down the thicker than original flange to the same size as C&C had, ensuring to leave a nice radius on the transition.

They had a slightly different profile so some fairing putty was used in the recess in the hull.

I think I started with Perko through hulls which I modified, I can help you out with this if you'd like.

#10 Re: General discussion » Looking for C&C 27 blueprints or technical diagrams » 2012-10-18 00:56:23

I have copies of all of the relevant drawings that the Museum has. It takes a while to locate things in the Cuthbertson FONDS at the museum(only a fraction of the materials have been properly archived thus far) and there are research fees that I paid for the drawings to be pulled from the archives and scanned. As they're technically now property of the museum I'm not sure if I'm supposed to freely distribute it. I'm sure others would be interested if the ADMIN would host the drawings. All in all they're 6mbs.

Otherwise email me at [deleted] asking for them and I'll forward asap.

John

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