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#1 Re: General discussion » Mk V bulkhead drain » 2014-10-18 07:42:21

Hi
I have the same issue. Is your hull number correct? I don't think C&C built 500 hulls in the same year.
I'd love to see a picture of the later bilge area
Brent Driedger

S/V Wild Rover

C&C 27 MkV #15

#2 Re: General discussion » Boat weight » 2012-10-26 13:15:06

Our configuration is this. The crane is a jib arm type mounted to a vertical single post that lifts a boat from its trailer with an electric chain fall hoist. The hook on the bottom of the hoist is connected to a scale device that in turn has a large I- beam connected to it. Hooks on either end of the beam attach to large loading straps and the whole mess is rated for 11k.  Once the straps are about the hull and ready to lift, you zero out the scale and proceed to lift.
All my spars were aboard and the mast was down and laying across the pulpit and stern rail. All tanks are empty, I never carry water in the fresh tank.. Diesel tank was half empty , the twin batteries were in place and all ground tackle was aboard. I can't explain the weight difference.
Maybes hull was built on Friday and they forgot a few layers of glass!

Brent

#3 Re: General discussion » Boat weight » 2012-10-25 10:02:51

Hi Alan
Last year our club installed a scale on the crane to discourage overweight boats from hooking onto it. This fall when I hauled my diesel powered MkV I noted the weight to be 5550 lbs. I had removed all of the sails prior to the lift but all other gear was still below. Although I race the boat primarily I still have the odds and ends for light weight cruising. I think I carry about 200 lbs. of sails and 50 lbs. of empty beer cans so the PHRF certificate is darned close!
Our crane is rated to 11000 lbs and when my friend pulled his 33 Mk2 he stripped it down to nearly new conditions, dumped the spars etc and tapped out at about 10,970 lbs.!

Brent Driedger
C&C 27 MkV #15
s/v Wild Rover
Lake Winnipeg

#4 Re: General discussion » Yanmar controls » 2012-08-13 13:20:52

Hi Joe
The two position switch directly on the panel sits at rest in the middle position. Pushed up (or maybe down) it simulates a fault and causes the horn and alert lights to glow. I'm guessing this i a indicator test position. Down... I have no idea. The back-lights for the gauges are always on so it doesn't turn those on. 
Anyone??

Brent

#5 General discussion » Yanmar controls » 2012-08-11 12:06:42

Brent
Replies: 2

My engine controls on my MkV were modified by the original owner. The knob above the engine kill knob had been rewired to run a deck wash pump which leaves me wondering what the original intention of this knob was for. Is the 1GM10 equipped with a pre-heater and did this knob activate it... or what.

Cheers

Brent Driedger
s/v Wild Rover
C&C 27 MkV #15

#6 Re: General discussion » buying C&C 27 » 2012-06-28 13:55:35

The pictures are a helpful start. If you like what you see and no red flags come up then a survey is the next step. This boat looks wet to me. I see a lot of water stains below the shroud chain plates on the bulkhead. I'm also seeing a discolouration on the sole near the v-berth and the sump cover looks watered too. On the plus side the self tailing winches are a great step up and the furler looks decent.
You would want to see the boat on the hard to look for blisters and keel damage too. This can make a cheap boat a real nightmare.

Brent Driedger
C&C 27 MkV
s/v Wild Rover

#7 General discussion » 1GM10 water pump access » 2012-05-13 15:58:33

Brent
Replies: 1

Good day folks.
Yanmar 1GM10's seem to have a service design flaw which is poor access to the water pump cover.
Since I bought my C&C 27 MKV I have been inspecting the water pump by using a very very small phillips screw driver which at a severe angle, just squeaks in past the pulley blocking the screws to the cover.
Is there a different method other than pulley removal that I have not figured out yet? If I loose that screwdriver, I'm screwed!

Brent Driedger
C&C 27 MkV
s/v Wild Rover
Lake Winnipeg

#8 Re: General discussion » Mooring cleats » 2012-05-13 15:49:49

With an early model MkV (#15) I suffer from issues fixed in later models and the stern cleat location is one of them. They mounted the cleats to the outside of the cockpit combing right before the stern. This is ok except when I race down wind on occasion the spinnaker blocks mounted directly behind them can get jammed up and it takes a hammer to release it. This can get scary when you need to ease a spinnaker in a hurry and nothing moves! Moving the cleats to the aft aft like on later models is on my to do list.

Brent Driedger
C&C 27 MkV #15
s/v Wild Rover
Lake Winnipeg

#9 Re: General discussion » Mast Rake » 2011-11-29 14:49:25

Nothing gets a good bruha going at our club like discussing rake vs. bend. One particular member and myself have gone at it till the wee hours of the morning using articles such as pedestal mounted oscillating fans, chairs and paddles to get our points across as to what constitutes rake and what makes bend. Sometimes I start it up just to get him going!
His argument is that you cannot create rake without shimming the base of the mast. I follow this by leaning a chair back on its hind legs "there, it's raked...18"!"
Man I can't wait till racing season begins again!

Brent Driedger
s/v Wild Rover
C&C 27 MkV
Under her tarp asleep for the winter

#10 Re: General discussion » Loving my MkV » 2011-09-29 15:17:24

Most of my gear goes to the cockpit but I set sails from the foredeck. My chutes live in turtles which adds to the difficulties and my foresails are on a foil. Going dead down wind things can get dicy quickly and gybing is always an adventure but it's fun to try new things. I race the boat on Wednesdays so I'll be leaving this set-up alone for now.
I use an ST1000 autohelm now and it is making life much easier.
Unfortunately the clubs photographer shot a great picture of my performing a perfect clew hoist on my last solo attempt. Most humbling.

Brent Driedger
s/v Wild Rover
C&C 27V #15
Lake Winnipeg

#11 General discussion » Loving my MkV » 2011-09-18 03:09:11

Brent
Replies: 4

I've just completed my 3rd season with my MkV and I have really gotten to know her and make her perform. I took a season off from racing to get into her which allowed me to fine tune this and that, listen to what she had to say and has resulted in me being way more in tune with what she does. Sometimes in the heat of wednesday night racing its easy to get into a rut that does not lend itself for trying new things.
The MkV is an awesome single-handing platform too and I have impressed myself with adventurous tricks such as performing well with a spinnaker in a weekend pursuit race. For an adrenaline kick, if you have never flown the chute by yourself, I recommend giving it a try (in light air).
This youtube link is some video I shot during one of my last great nights out on the water.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUOENMquz3w

Brent Driedger
C&C 27 MkV
s/v Wild Rover
Lake Winnipeg

#12 Re: General discussion » New window sealing idea » 2011-08-14 15:37:14

5200 is a bad choice for plexi and polycarbonate. It slowly attacks the plastic and by next year you may find a lot of crazing around the windows edges. I can only imagine this weakens them. When replacement time comes you will be using a router to remove them.

Many have used screws on the windows and it will work provided you allow large enough holes to absorb the expansion of the windows from winter to sun beating over 100f in the summer. They could split.
Let us know in about a year how it's going. This will be an interesting progress report.

Brent Driedger
C&C 27 Mk 5
s/v Wild Rover
Lake Winnipeg

#13 Re: General discussion » New window sealing idea » 2011-06-02 12:25:48

Just an update to what I had written earlier.

So I attempted to remove my old leaking starboard window and in the process broke it in 1/3. As a result I committed myself to replacement of both window which makes experimentation with structural tapes unappealing. The new acrylic cost me $400 from the local dealer (cut and beveled) which is quite a bit less than the $600 Northshore would have charged with shipping.
For the second time in the 3 years I've owned the boat I have the windows out.  The Plexus adhesive and gun are in my garage, now I'm ready for a do-over armed with knowledge I wish I had during the first attempt. Not enough glue and no spacers = leaks!
Brent Driedger

S/V Wild Rover

C&C 27 MkV #15

#14 Re: General discussion » Using screws in the bilge » 2011-05-11 13:24:08

I don't like the idea of screws in a bilge area. I mounted my pump in a blob of thickened epoxy and did the same thing to secure the wires. Done neatly it works very well.
Brent Driedger

S/V Wild Rover

C&C 27 MkV #15

#15 General discussion » New window sealing idea » 2011-05-09 15:02:47

Brent
Replies: 10

This morning I had an epiphany while I lay somewhere between awake and dreamland.
Last year I contacted my industrial adhesive distributer, the same folks who provided me with Plexus adhesive when I repaired the leaky windows on my Mk5. This time I needed some really good double sided tape to re-attach my handheld GPS mount to my bulkhead. He gave me the bitter end of a roll of the same stuff a bus manufacturer here in Winnipeg uses to glue the fiberglas panels of a busses skin together.
Let me tell you this tape is fringing amazing and once it is stuck to a substrate it DOES NOT COME OFF! It's a 3M heavy duty foam product about 1/8" thick with waterproof adhesives on either side.

The epiphany was this. If this tape is a suitable structural adhesive for a bus, would it work to structurally glue the windows of 1980's style C&C's to the cabin top. The foam is tough enough to not separate from the glue and I think would allow expansion and contraction. I'm going to contact him again to see how well it works on polycarbonate or acrylic and if the answer is good I'll try it out on my once again leaking starboard window.

Does this sound too good or too risky?

Brent Driedger
C&C 27 MkV
s/v Wild Rover
Lake Winnipeg (pre algae bloom)

#16 General discussion » Windward Sheeting Car » 2011-05-09 14:53:35

Brent
Replies: 5

I did a bit of searching in the archives on this one but I couldn't find the quick easy answer. For those who race Mk5s is Harken's "Small Boat" 3:1 windward sheeting system acceptable or will it blow apart during crash jibes?  Obviously the "Midrange" is more appealing for loads but "midrange" does not reflect the price!
Brent Driedger

S/V Wild Rover

C&C 27 MkV #15

#17 Re: General discussion » Teak handrails: butyl tape or 4200? » 2011-05-05 11:47:43

My $0.02

I had the same question 2 years ago when I re-bedded all my deck hardware. I used 1/8 butyl on all of it and had no issues other than the constant squish-out of butyl for the first year- choose 1/16 instead. For the handrails I went with 4200 because I was afraid with the expanding / contracting of the handrails due to humidity, the cyclic action may force the butyl out quicker than on a fitting and cause them to loosen gradually causing an amplified effect. So far I'm pleased with my choice to go with the 4200. This and my transducers are the only locations I have used it.
Just do the usual caulk procedure of applying it, very lightly screw down the hardware, let it set up for the day then tighten it down completely. Good luck.
Brent Driedger

S/V Wild Rover

C&C 27 MkV #15

#18 General discussion » Mark V list » 2011-04-20 12:50:16

Brent
Replies: 5

Good day folks. My C&C 27 MkV has a slight list to starboard while sitting at the dock. I attribute this to the slightly bent keel the previous owner provided me throwing of the center of gravity. But I notice another MkV at our club with the same issue. This I can only guess is due to the starboard water tank being full but I'm curious to know if anyone else seems to have that slight static list too.
Brent Driedger

S/V Wild Rover

C&C 27 MkV #15

#19 Re: General discussion » C&C 27 MkV new racing sails and equipment for sale » 2011-04-12 12:43:36

Hi Greg,

How much for the windward sheeting car?
Brent Driedger

S/V Wild Rover

C&C 27 MkV #15

#20 Re: General discussion » C&C 27 MK V Rig » 2011-03-02 10:47:18

I run the 3DL on a foil. It's been a fantastic sail so far but my foil extrusion needs replacing...
Brent Driedger

S/V Wild Rover

C&C 27 MkV #15

#21 Re: General discussion » Stuffing box packing - 1/4" or 5/16"? » 2010-08-28 01:12:30

I put in a new graphite packing last year (i think it was 1/4 inch) which keeps out the lake very well. Last spring it leaked quite a bit when I launched the boat but fixed it with help from a couple of pipe wrenches. Snug it up till it stops leaking and run the engine. A few drips per minute is ok for lubrication. After it's run in a little, feel the packing to make sure its not hot. If hot it will damage the shaft and burn out the packing. Adjusting the packing is not dangerous while afloat, replacing it is. Just make sure the shaft log is in good condition (10 years...I'd think about replacing it) and don't allow any torque to be transfered to it while tightening.
Brent Driedger

S/V Wild Rover

C&C 27 MkV #15

#22 Re: General discussion » Halyard opinions » 2010-08-01 09:37:36

That sounds good. If anyone has detailed instructions for the "halyard knot" I'd love to hear it.
Brent Driedger

S/V Wild Rover

C&C 27 MkV #15

#23 General discussion » Halyard opinions » 2010-07-29 15:50:38

Brent
Replies: 19

Last Wednesday night my genny 1 halyard shackle let go the sail while we were tightening things up in 18 knots of wind. The shackle (a crappy victory unit) opened and closed with the sound of a 50 cal gun going off and is thankfully permanently deformed. Now I'll replace the shackles with Wichard or the like but doing so will require replacement of the halyards as the lines are too old to splice. What material is the best bang for the buck for halyards these days. Dyneema, spectra, sta-set, seaweed, goat hair.....
Brent Driedger

S/V Wild Rover

C&C 27 MkV #15

#24 Re: General discussion » C&C 27 Cored Hulls? » 2010-07-03 13:13:54

The MkV is NOT a cored hull. Nothing but good ol glass all the way through!
Brent Driedger

S/V Wild Rover

C&C 27 MkV #15

#25 Re: General discussion » C&C 27 MK V Rig » 2010-06-12 08:19:58

Well the good news is I'm now racing at 180 PHRF. I had some discussions with our chief rater and with my input (being race officer) we decided to make a few changes. In the long run it really makes no difference. This all started because we have some C&C 29 Mk1's here that race in our division 2 at 177 and above. Seem they were not competitive against the sonars and Tartan 10's that dominate division 1 so we took them over at 177 and raised the ratings on the remaining div. 2 boats by 3 seconds. As a result my edge against the others stays the same but my corrected time improves slightly. Maybe I can still negotiate an improvement with my 2% smaller sail. I have one race under my belt now with the kevlar 153% and I'm very impressed with it. It trims out well, the boat is balanced and heel has been reduced so naturally I'm pointing a little higher!
Brent Driedger

S/V Wild Rover

C&C 27 MkV #15

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